This interview was made in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic in May 2020. We spoke mainly about leading from the middle in education and how to foster an improvement in children’s learning and wellbeing. We interviewed Andy Hargreaves, Research Professor at the Lynch School of Education at Boston College. He also holds Visiting Professorships at the University of Ottawa, Hong Kong University, at the University of Stavanger (Norway) and an Honorary Professorship at Swansea University. He is also the former President of the International Congress of School Effectiveness & Improvement and the founding Editor-in-Chief of the Journal of Professional Capital and Community. He has served as an Adviser in Education to the Premier of Ontario and the First Minister of Scotland. He is the co-founder of ARC education project: a group of nations committed to broadly defined excellence, equity, wellbeing, inclusion, democracy and human rights in education (www.atrico.org).